45-minute session on day 1

Even before considering reproducible builds, GHC has the following problems:

Change in a function causes changes in packages using it due to heavy cross-module inlining (.hi files). It’s the same API, but the ABI changes anyway. It’s caused by intermediate format where names are invented, supposed to be unique. A global counter used for that. Using parallel compilation you get different numbers, sometimes ending up in interface files. GHC people are working on this because they want to get interface files stable too, even for partial builds. Stable binary files are a logical next step.

Debian package for GHC and libraries can be built reproducibly, but using parallel mode. Other smaller changes exist, e.g. build path, debug sections. Debian works around these (using a fixed path for the build directory, predictable file names for temp files). Patches need review by other GHC developers before they can be merged (the Debian maintainer is also GHC developer).

But even so Haskell packages on a user’s system have to be updated all together.

Possibly write a tool to renumber random numbers in object files to allow parallelization again.

diffoscope supports diffing GHC interface files (.hi) (using GHC).

OCaml has a similar problem (but perhaps less obvious).

Discussion about rebuilds on Debian caused by Haskell ABI changes, then about other triggers for rebuilds, and associated waste of CPU time, and how to avoid that.

OS X has different tmp directory path every reboot.

Ways to get GHC to NOT include the path to temp files. e.g. pass in a source and build directory as arguments, make GHC only include VARIABLE plus relative paths (and variable replaced by debugger).

Arch Linux observed changes in parallel builds in GHC, to investigate if they are fixed by Debian patches.